Where are they Now?

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby john bevan » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:58 pm

I know this is slightly off topic, but what happened to Chris Alford's 4/4 that he won the 1976 production car championship in? Was it owned by John Britten? And where is it now?

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby E Jeffries » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:22 pm

I contacted the DVLA historical archives to inquire about 405 FXO. They responded and said that FXO was a London County Council issue, but unfortunately the records were destroyed in the 1970's. They also said that the FXO series was issued between April 1963 and January 1964. Pip Arnold took delivery of his new low bodied Super Sports in April, 1963, so the FXO issue date range would be coincide with the arrival of the new car and sale of his high body car, the 1960 version of TOK 258 which became registered as XRX 1 during a registration swap. On the surface it's all a bit confusing, but with a little digging the picture becomes more clear.

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Philip McKelvey » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:33 pm

I have read with interest the above postings but must confess to being more confused than ever regarding the originalty of cars and thier registrations.
On a lighter note does anyone know the whereabouts of the 64 reg black high cowl car featured in the Doris day film, I have asked my wife to note the reg number when the film is repeated again, I even thought I caught a glimpse of a Plus 4 Plus during one scene.

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby angela-cooper » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:51 pm

George Murray Symons was my father and I have many photos of him in the Morgan mentioned as well as several cups he won. I remember him talking about his days at Brooklands and on trials and we also had a picture of the car - as I recall it was red! He died in August 1985. I would be interested to know which museum in Florida has the car, if anyone knows. Angela Cooper
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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby E Jeffries » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:46 pm

angela-cooper wrote:I would be interested to know which museum in Florida has the car, if anyone knows. Angela Cooper


The Collier Automotive Museum in Naples, Florida might have the car. Collier's collection of sports and racing cars is huge. Here are their contact details:

Collier Automotive Museum
2500 S. Horseshoe Drive
Naples, Florida 33942

phone +1-813-643-5252
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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Leigh Sebba » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:44 am

Philip

I consulted the ‘bible’ but not too much info there on this film -

http://www.gomog.com/movies/movies.html

Do Not Disturb
1965 starring Doris Day and Rod Taylor
A very sorry movie for a very fine performer. Nothing seems to work here
except the Morgan Roadster. E.Herman
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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Guy Loveridge » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:55 am

There used to be a car museum in the vacinity of Breadenton Airpoty near Sarrasota in Florida. They had a 4/4 when I was there in 1998. Also an Arnott-Bristol and some other fine macheneary.
It was down the main drag, poss Tammy-Ammy Trail, from the Ringling Bros Circus Museum and the Barnum Art Collection.
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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Philip McKelvey » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:57 am

Thank you Leigh

The Morgan is well featured, the efforts of Doris with the manual shift would presume it has now had a replacement box. I will try to confirm the number plate. There is also another Morgan featured in a film not listed on site, details of which I shall forward on confirmation.

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Guy Loveridge » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:22 pm

Here's another one for you all -

Where is TKL 859?

I have a picture of it racing at Brands in the 1960's, with number 85 on the door, and a be-spectacled driver up. High-Coweled, on SUs - hole cut in bonnet side for them.

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby John Clarke » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:22 am

Hi Angela

I've moved this topic to the Series 1 section here

http://www.brakehorsepower.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1391&p=12814#p12814

I have two photos of JTT 703 which I have posted there

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Re: Where are they Now?

Postby Guy Loveridge » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:32 pm

To clarify a few things ref- Jim Tucker's car and mentions on here.

Jim's two "Big" races were both at Brands. in 1965 and 1966. In 1965 he ran in the famous "Guards 1000" - or "Double 500 " race. There were lots of Morgans in the entry list - Lawrencetune (slr - TOK 258) driven by Lawrence and Spender with Donnelly; R. North with A House; J Thurston with J V Terry; Jim with Brian Kendall. In the reserves were D S Jones and J S Maclay and Charles Blythe, Jenny Bond-Smith and David Wansbrough.

Jim came home 1st placed Morgan.

In 1966 he was back again for the Ilford Films 500 - here he was a reserve with Charles Blyth. They made the race though and did pretty well, second Morgan home well inside the top 20 of 35 starters.
Charles Blyth was sadly killed at the Targa Florio in 1970 or 1971 - not competing, he stepped out in front of a competition car and was run over.

Jim was an "amateur" driver, he raced for the love of it and the challenge. However, if you look at the drivers in the Ilford race, for example - names you might know:-

David Piper, Bob Bondurant, Mike Salmon, Chris Irwin, Roy Pike, Chris Amon, Innes Ireland, Peter Sutcliffe, Bernard Unett, Jackie Oliver, Bill Nicholson, Jean Denton, Gerry Marshall, Tony Lanfranchi, Peter Gethin, Mark Konig.......

GP racers, GP winners, Le Mans winners etc - It was all pretty hot stuff! Given Jim's was a self prepared car, worked on in the street in Luton outside his 'digs'; driven to the races and that the "accomodation" was "The Big Blue Hotel" - a bell tent!

There was a twin spare wheel red +4 before Jim bought his BRG car back over from Jersey. He raced up until the 1970 season. With a year out for repairs after Chris Dixon wrote the car off at the 8 Clubs' Meeting. After that Jim rebuilt it as a "Super sports" - low-line etc and painted it bright Orange!
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