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1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:26 am
by Mary Lindsay
This 1969 Plus 8 took part in the 1969 Tour de France driven by Guy Savoye and Roger Lamoral

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It is understood to be chassis number R7038, engine no.C 5673/1A, original colour Lemon Chrome, despatched 11 March 1969 to French Morgan importer Jacques Savoye in Paris, first owner Mr. Lamoral, Neuilly, France.

It would be interesting to know if this car still exists.

It did a lot of competition and there are some great photos of the car in action from the Roger and Marie-Colette Lamoral archives here:
http://club.caradisiac.com/motor-head/a ... hotos.html

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:17 pm
by RICHARD PLANT
Many thanks for posting Mary some fabulous period photos.

This might jog a memory....R7038 had a UK registration number prior to being exported which was XAB 439G. I assume it was registered so it could be driven back to France or did it spend some time in the UK being race / rally prepared ?


I love the photo of the rear wheel cover as used on the TDF... I was unable to use a photo on my FIA /HTP’s papers because I couldn’t prove it was used in period.!!

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:15 am
by Mary Lindsay
I have a copy of the results and entry list that proves it. The photos on the link also give some fairly conclusive evidence.
The MMC records should show this if they are prepared to give the information.

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by Andy Downes
Mary, you will know this early +8 is now significant, not just because it was an early Moss box car in competition – but it was being used in Internationally designated events. Without knowing it Savoye and company laid the foundations which allowed the Moss box cars to qualify for their FIA HTP (Historic Technical Passport) papers and hence compete in the myriad of today’s ‘Historic Motor Sport’ events, much like Chris Lawrence did for the +4.

Thank goodness Jacques Savoye and Mr Lamoral got out there and did it !

Andy

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:06 pm
by jack bellinger
Absolutely Andy

but it had to go into prototype class
When i checked out why
Simple really ........ not enough had been made in 1969

check out
https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeX7NrWa e4
1969 Tour De France 1min 16sec in

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:13 pm
by Mary Lindsay
Hi Jack, that link doesn't work - it says video not available

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:32 pm
by Mary Lindsay
Solved!
This works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeX7NrWa_e4

An underscore was missing at the end

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:45 pm
by jack bellinger
computers should have a steering wheel and pedals

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:10 pm
by Mary Lindsay
See, it took a woman driver to sort it for you! :roll:

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:19 pm
by jack bellinger
where would we be without girlies??

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:25 pm
by Mary Lindsay
You wouldn't be anywhere at all!

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:13 am
by Barry Sumner
Oh I don't know

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:54 am
by Mary Lindsay
Biologically speaking

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:47 pm
by Duncan Hurwood
A number of the photos show scoops on the at 10 and 2 o’clock on the bonnets. To get air in or allow carburettors out?
Typically-
http://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/photo ... 16.jpg?v=6

Re: 1969 Plus 8 356AK92

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:28 am
by jean christophe frot
Thanks for accepting my registration to brake horsepower. As a quick introduction I am a former chairman of the Morgan Club de France and Morgan owner since 1968.
Coming back to the subject, the car still exist. I first saw it in 1968 at Savoye's premises. According to Claude Savoye the engine was tuned by Chris Lawrence who fit 2 Webers carbs then in need of the scoops in the bonnet. As far as the body was concern, bonnet and wings were plastic moulded. I don't know to whom R. Lamoral sold his car in 1970. However in 1980 the car in need of a full restauration, was in the hands of Gerard Welter, designer within the Peugeot car manufacturer, and parked at the Peugeot design center in the west suburb of Paris. Finding no time to take care of the restauration G. Welter sold it to one of his collaborator, Nicolas Arvanitakis. He then start a ground up restauration, respecting the originality of the car except for the body painting, he change the original yellow to red, why is a mistery. He use to drive it not so often but was still the owner 2 years ago.