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1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 10:08 am
by peter rafter
for info
1964 + 4 Super Sports
at H&H Auctions 18 March
enticing price guide or a sign of the Times,
could also be that the cogniscient for these much vaunted models are sadly diminishing. I hope not
regards

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 5:27 pm
by SimonScott
There are 3x Morgans in the sale:
Lot 13 - 1938 4/4 reg BMO 388 ("4 year restoration finished in 2024") £16-20k
Lot 75 - 1963 Plus 4 559 FYN £18-20k
and Lot 115 - 1964 Plus 4 SS JMD 111B £50-60k
Wonder what they will go for? :shock:

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:00 am
by Kevin Morton
559 FYN has been up for sale for around 5 years.
Back then looking for around £34k, more recently around £24k.
Once owned by Jim Lowry.
It’s had some chassis repairs and has a strange kink in the OS bulkhead which the photos fail to show.

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 6:05 pm
by peter rafter
Supersports. sits and looks the part. Super Webers. Very tidy and reflects the age. Should make the money easily Robin

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2026 12:26 am
by Kevin Morton
Looks like neither of the +4’s sold.
So you never know but an offer of around £50k may bag you a Supersports.
The 1938 4/4 sold for a very soothing £13k including buyers costs.

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2026 1:30 pm
by peter rafter
so much for my prescience. As ever there are peaks and troughs in prices and valuations. Today we may be at the lower end. This was a missed opportunity for some. I recall bidding stalled at 38.5 and the Auctioneer's closing words were " it must at least have a 4 in front of the amount' possibly to meet the reserve with the buyers premium.' The car looked fine as it should from age and use, not concours. However, it did not sell. Many other lots sold well below their high end estimates.
Although, a stunning pre war Frazer Nash -BMW 326 with some competition history hit £360k in a room bidding tussle.
Kelham Hall a former Victorian Anglian Monastery is an impressive venue.
A Lagonda Rapide dominated the entrance hall which still has wall fitted pews
pax vobiscum
regards

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:23 pm
by Kevin Morton
I wonder if the highest bidder would have gone higher but was not going to bid against themselves!
They may yet come to an agreement with the vendor.

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:45 am
by peter rafter
from 47 to 50

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 10:43 am
by Kevin Morton
Does anybody know this car, still trying to understand its provenance?
Apparently been in the same ownership since 1970.
However the last V5C was issued in June 2025 ( Of course this may simply be a change of car details, or address).
Date of original registration is odd, showing as September 1983.
Could understand if it had originally been an export car, but there is nothing to suggest that.
Might explain why bidding was poor.

Re: 1964 + 4 super sports

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:52 pm
by peter rafter
Chassis No: 5707
Singleton family. I think Robin is the current owner.
this from the catalogue
"As one of only 104 Super Sports produced, of which ninety-six were the two-seater variety, ‘JMD 111B’ is really something special. Factory records indicate that it was originally Green and its specification included “Lawrencetuned engine and oil cooler. Aluminium wings, bonnet and body. Wire wheels. Nylon tyres.” It was despatched on July 23rd, 1964, to Lawrencetune Engines of Acton, London W.3, and registered the next day. While Lawrencetune went to work on it, a year passed before it was sold to Mr. Peter Hahn of Radlett, Hertfordshire. He enjoyed it for five years, before selling it to the present owner on May 13th, 1970. Considering he paid £675 for it and has been driving it with vim across the years since, we’d say he got his money’s worth! He clearly had his heart set on the car, as he was living then in High Pittington, County Durham—about 250 miles from Radlett.

Much of this early history survives with the car, including a copy of the original green logbook, a copy of Mr. Hahn’s handwritten sales receipt, and the 1970-71 tax disc. A 1973 letter from Tim Cree of the Morgan Sports Car Club indicates just how sought-after the Super Sports was even then, as he wrote: “I’m pleased to be able to record the existence of another Super-Sports as I only know of about a dozen SSs at present (I know of one or two that might be but I haven’t yet positive identification). Many people (especially Americans, if the rocker cover has ‘Lawrencetune’ on it), claim their cars are Super-Sports, but the chassis no. soon identifies the car.”

It is quite evident that the vendor has always maintained the car well, and the earliest invoice on file is from the well-known Morgan garage of Melvyn Rutter in 1988. However, it has never required any major overhaul, and the most substantial work on file was performed by the Techniques Morgan service centre circa 2018. Totalling around £5,300, it entailed a full fluid and ignition service plus greasing the suspension; cleaning the carburettors; fitting new rear wheel cylinders and brake shoes; replacing the rear springs; and painting the engine, head and appropriate ancillary fittings, as well as the rear axle and chassis “where necessary.” The superb condition of the original interior is, perhaps, the greatest testament to how well the Super Sports has been cared for over the course of its life. It has required little attention since then, though interested parties will note that it received new Avon 175/70R15 tyres in 2021, and a new Enduroline battery in 2025.

Although the vendor bought the Morgan when it was only six years old, it probably goes without saying that it has, for several decades, been treated as a hobby car, and has seen only the lightest of use over the past twenty years; fewer than 300 miles separate the 2007 odometer reading of 32,841 miles and the present one of just over 33,100. In addition to the historic documents described earlier, several invoices and a copy of the Morgan factory’s chassis records are on file."
regards